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Author:  bob J [ Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:39 pm ]
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For those who F/P tops.

What do you use to finish b/s.
Thanks,

Author:  Dave-SKG [ Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:52 pm ]
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Usually F.P. but now being asked by customers to shoot Nitro on b and S.

Author:  CarltonM [ Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:07 am ]
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Bob,

This question would fit well in the main forum. It's not "off topic" at all.

Author:  John Elshaw [ Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:27 am ]
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So far I have always FP the back and sides. I have only built classical so far and this seems common. If I built SS, I don't think FP would be sturdy enough for the added protection needed and would probably nitro the b/s.

John

BTW, my Hauser guitar I have on order (a real Hauser III) uses FP top and a nitro back and sides.John Elshaw38936.5617592593

Author:  bob J [ Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:38 pm ]
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bump

Author:  Gary L [ Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:55 pm ]
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FP all over.

Author:  Mark Tripp [ Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:58 pm ]
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FP all around... - Neck too.

-Mark

Author:  bob J [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:22 am ]
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Thanks so much everyone,
Are you discussing classical? I thought steel string B/s many times is finished differently

Author:  j.Brown [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:29 am ]
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KTM-9 on the B/S
F/P on top and Neck

Author:  Mark Tripp [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:24 am ]
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Bob, I make strictly SS dreadnoughts right now.

-Mark

Author:  bob J [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:25 am ]
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Thanks to all
Mark, have you ever built the Martin 12fret long body D?
BOb

Author:  Mark Tripp [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:39 am ]
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Bob: No, not yet. I'm concentrating on standard 14 fret Dreads right now. I think I may branch out alittle bit when spring rolls around again.

-Mark

Author:  A Peebels [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:49 am ]
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My FP is looking good except for a bit of unevenness. It looks as if there is oil on the surface in some areas, but it will not wipe off with Naptha, and it does not feel oily. Any suggestions?

Al

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:55 am ]
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[QUOTE=A Peebels] My FP is looking good except for a bit of unevenness. It looks as if there is oil on the surface in some areas, but it will not wipe off with Naptha, and it does not feel oily. Any suggestions?

Al[/QUOTE]

Sorry for long delay in response but I have been on vacation and have not caught up on my reading yet. It sound to me like you have an unglazed finish. When you finish adding film thickness the last rubbing process is the glazing. this is where the film gets polished to a level sheen. this is done with very very little and very thin cut of shellac and more solvent then the other processes. it also is done in with the grain of the guitar in a motion very much like buffing shoes (glide on/glide off) Also you can take it to extrem high gloss with a polishing compound or high speed buffer and menzerna compounds.MichaelP38944.5704166667

Author:  A Peebels [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:38 am ]
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Thanks for the info.

Al

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:05 am ]
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[QUOTE=bob J] For those who F/P tops.

What do you use to finish b/s.
Thanks,[/QUOTE]

I do 2 different hybrid finishes one FP top/ktm9 back & sides, the other is FP top and nitro back and sides. but you could do all sorts of combos

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:14 am ]
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[QUOTE=John Elshaw] So far I have always FP the back and sides. I have only built classical so far and this seems common. If I built SS, I don't think FP would be sturdy enough for the added protection needed and would probably nitro the b/s.

John

BTW, my Hauser guitar I have on order (a real Hauser III) uses FP top and a nitro back and sides.[/QUOTE]

John I hear that all the time but IPMO it is not true. most all vintage mandolins were FP, and they get more pick scratches than guitars. FP get knocked for being soft, but I'm guessing it is about 80% of nitro's Rockwell hardness (Rockwell hardness not really relevant to finish but make since to me )and much easier to repair. I have done 90% of my SS guitars FP They are holding up just fine.MichaelP38944.6779513889

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